Mormon Trilemma
I have a meeting this afternoon with a couple of Mormon missionaries who stopped by some time last week and asked to talk with me about their, um, gospel. So I’ve been thinking for the last few days about how to get to the heart of the matter with them as quickly as possible.
The difficulty with Mormons is that they appear so much like ordinary evangelical Christians in their culture and lifestyle that it’s difficult to point out something that is blatantly un-Christian, and at the same time, they have distinctive views on history and biblical texts that make it’s easy to point out errors in their beliefs without ever coming to the issue of the gospel. In other words, it’s easy enough for a committed evangelical Christian to see that Mormons aren’t, and so avoid the possibility of being converted accidentally. But it’s very difficult, in polite conversation, to point out to a committed young Mormon that his religion is different from yours even in its essence, and dangerously so.
Questions of Kolob and ancient Indian civilizations notwithstanding, there are actually two theological errors that Mormons partake in. One is a kind of Arianism, which sees the trinity as three separate entities who are unified only in as far as their personal agreement, rather than three persons of the same substance, eternally experiencing a perichoretic unity. In other words, it’s difficult to explain.
The other error is easier to deal with, because the nature of the gospel hinges on it. The Mormon position is that any human who makes an attempt at self-reform according to God’s law can in time improve to a level of perfection. It is a gospel of self-improvement aided by the power of the Holy Spirit, and God’s gracious repeated revelation of the plan for this self-improvement. In other words, Pelagianism.
Mormon Pelagianism isn’t something that Mormons try to hide, though the true doctrines of grace may escape them. How hard is it, really, to hear that you are saved by God working a heart change in you, to which achievement you yourself make no actual contribution? It’s difficult!
I suppose a more thoroughly indoctrinated Calvinist than I could bring the distinction home through a rigorous application of TULIP, but as for myself, I have a hard time remembering what the letters stand for. And the last thing I want to do is to frighten them by appearing like an enraged madman attempting to throttle them with the gospel.
And besides, I think I have an easier way.
I think it’s essential to remember that these young men are intent on evangelizing me. They are sincere and earnestly want what they believe is best for me. Door-to-door evangelism is hard and any kind of personal delivery like this is a bit intimidating. The Christian response, I think, is not to be offensive, but to respond to them as I would want them to respond to me if I showed up at their door hoping to bring them to an orthodox faith. They want to have a conversation with me about their religion? Great, I want to have that conversation, too, because I want them to be saved as badly as they want me to be converted. I don’t want to score any points in an argument.
I don’t, however, want to be an easy sell. It would be a disservice to both of us if I were to be genial to the point of placidity. The only reason I’m interested in talking to them about Mormonism is that I want to talk to them about orthodox Christianity, so we need to hone in on the difference as quickly as possible, otherwise it would have been a better use of everyone’s time if I had refused to answer the door.
What I want to do is start talking immediately about the fact that we have two different gospels and hone in on what the differences are between them. But Pelagianism isn’t the gospel that they’re preaching; it’s just the theological type that fits them. The message is about an apostate church and a replacement church. The power is in the institution, and I happen to be a member of the old institution. This means that the old Reformation questions about the basis of authority are just as pertinent here as they have ever been. How do you know that the gospel you preach is “the faith given once for all to the saints?”
The Mormon story is that the church, shortly after Jesus ascended to heaven, lost the gospel. I agree, though I caution about how shortly. But I acknowledge that it’s quite possible for a church to fall away and become bankrupt, to “lose the keys of heaven” as it were. The question then is by what means can these keys be regained, and how can we prevent the church from falling away? My little Mormon tract says that
Some inspired people, such as Martin Luther and John Calvin, recognized that practices and doctrines had been changed or lost. They tried to reform the churches to which they belonged. Without priesthood authority, however, Christ’s gospel could not be returned to its original form. A restoration was needed.
So Joseph Smith brought the restoration that was needed. Fine. But Joe Smith isn’t around any more, so how does the Mormon church guarantee that they don’t fall into apostasy like the other churches? And here is a Mormon trilemma:
Can they guarantee that Mormonism is preserved by adhering to the additional texts in the Book of Mormon? Just so. But if you can be sure of getting the right gospel by holding to the right text, and if there is nothing in error about the such texts as Romans, Galatians, and the Four Gospels, then the Protestant churches who follow the biblical text carefully aren’t apostate. So I am perfectly fine staying in the church where I am.
The other option is that Mormonism is preserved by a “priesthood authority” which Joseph Smith was allowed to pass down, say by the laying on of hands. The Mormon church is in fact led by a prophet (so-called) who speaks with apostolic authority, much the way the Catholic church is led by the Pope. But if the Mormon church is preserved by apostolic descent, then apostolic descent should be sufficient to preserve any church. But if this is so, then Eastern Orthodox churches and Roman Catholic churches, which both can trace their succession in an unbroken line back to Jesus’ apostles, are preserved by this means. In that case, these churches must not be apostate.
The only other option is to insist that the authority to establish the correct church is found either in apostolic descent or in a correct text (or both) but that gospel presented by the Mormon church is simply fundamentally different that held by either the Protestant or Roman or Orthodox churches.
But if the Mormon gospel is different, then I dare not even consider it, for (Gal. 1:8) “even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.”

Obscure for those outside the nerd world:
I say hyphenation is cheating
Kyle, this is incredible! I am blown away. Very profound and thought provoking. I wish you the best and I know you will serve our country well. God bless you and your family.
All I can say is what the Lord once said to me — I know that’s very subjective.
But I once spent a great deal of time repenting of my feelings. I considered my feelings the TRUE expression of me. Once in the midst of such a repentence, The Lord broke in and said. That’s not who you are — it’s just how you feel
Similiar thing happened when we first moved to Tulsa. I was simply contemplating my last few months working with children in Lawton; ruminating on the adage that you can’t fool a child. Thinking, yes, you can. I fooled them every week. I didn’t love them but they thought I did. Again, I was interrupted when the Lord said, that was love. Love isn’t a warm fuzzy feeling — it’s what you do and you LOVED those children for me.
One of the most powerful teachings I have hung onto through the years came from a converted Jewish woman whose name I have forgotten. She was the speaker at a retreat I went to when we first moved to Lawton. The series of messages was Obedience: Squeals, Squawks and the deluxe combo. Squealing obedience was when what we’re given to do is exactly what we want to do and we squeal with joy. Squawking obedience is the opposite. And the dexlue combo are those situations that begin either squeaking or squawking and then the experiences reverses itself. The point she made over and over again was that if we obeyed regardless of our feelings [squawking] The Lord would write in His book _________obeyed me, one more time.
I think feelings matter but I don’t find evidence God is judging us by them. He is moved by the feelings of our infirmities.
Side bar — but we all have ways we used to “fix” ourselves when our feelings begin to overwhelm us – my pesonal favorite is worship. Which anyone can do driving down the road. Lenghty devotions are not the only solution. Kerry uses worship and also has a wonderful testimony of using just giving thanks.
How in the world are you having time to listen to so many messages and post reviews in the afternoon? Are you leading a double life? I am jealous, I never have that kind of time with my work…
I think the poem is spot-on, having lived on an anvil of late. Thanks for transcribing it! Hope I get a semi-noble part.
I don’t have time to read any more. But I have plenty of time to listen. In due deference though, I didn’t transcribe it. The lovely folks at Dave Harvey’s church sent me a copy when they wrote back to me.
I did put in the proper line breaks, tho’.
It seems there were only the two entrants. So who won?
Hope everything’s ok. Our prayers are with you guys.
When is his appointment with a neuro?
Dang! What would a person do with nearly 9 gallons of mince meat?!
I do happen to like mince meat pie, though my tastes are probably off since I’m used to the store bought stuff. Still, 9 gallons…
Blegh. I remember what happened the last time mincemeat was consumed in our family.
MMM, that does sound good. Next time you cook up a batch send me a couple of cans
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